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From Eric Sanderson
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02/07/2011
Hello Ed, Gibson Rant From Rich Petroni Attention I was in your store about 6 weeks ago and I was very impressed with your selection of custom guitars. I was not intending to buy anything, I had read some negative comments on that <"A hole" Gibson Forum> that had swayed me away from doing any business with you. I live in Alabama, Here in Podunk Alabama the best guitars are Fender's & Gibson's. I'll bet your surprised to hear that, huh? hee hee. Most people around here are not well educated and have never been to the big city. I know people who are in their 50's and have never been outside of a 50 square mile area their whole lives! I should have known better, I've been to New York, LA & Vegas some of the farm boys around here have never even been to Mobile or Montgomery yet they act like they know all about guitars. Your honest reporting and criticism on Gibson Geetars is not making you a lot of friends here in bible country! Yee Haw ! I understand now why these idiots don't like you. By your outspoken truth you are in effect de valuating their most valuable possession. I read your flamer rant page and now my awareness level has been heightened to a new level. Just as I have had my eyes opened recently, I want to do all of my guitar buying business with you from now on. I will do my best to spread the gospel according to Ed Roman ! BTW I own about 15 guitars, I'm sad to say many of them are Gibsons. I can absolutely guarantee I will never buy another one. Anyway, I thought I had one of the best guitars money can buy. A 2006 V.O.S Les Paul because I had taken advice from some of my local redneck know nothing Gibson loving friends. The V.O.S, guitar is an abomination and a very overpriced abomination it is. Vile
Obscene
Shit would be a better
name! Your salesman Stephan really opened my eyes, I played your Maximus model and I must say the difference was astounding, I really liked the Rick Turner Model one but the Maximus is so much lighter and more comfortable. Stephan also told me that actually you are a nice guy, He said you don't compromise your feelings and your bark is worse than your bite. At this point I deeply hate all my Gibson Les Pauls ! I want to trade them in towards a Maximus a Quicksilver and an Avanti. After I looked at the comparisons on these guitars I was totally sold. I realize I am going to lose money on these Gibson's but I don't care, I want what I want !!!! I will be flying into Vegas Dec 10 and I will be in town for 4 days, I would like to come out to the custom shop and see the guitars being made, I really want to make sure you are going to be around, because I want you to sign all three guitars. Stephan told me that you would handle my sale personally and I would like to make sure you are going to be around. Richard R. Petroni Esq. Monroeville. Alabama |
Some People Never Learn They Just
Keep Buying Gibson's !!!
How many times do you have to
get hit on the head, before you finally figure out who's hitting
you.
| Matt Molter to me show details May 26 (11 days ago) I just wanted to let you know that I bought a Gibson Les Paul Standard that was supposedly 100% American made a few months ago at the local Guitar Center. The piece of $hit was maybe 20% made in America, probably just assembled. I took off the tuners because they were locking up and wouldn't even tighten or loosen the string with 30 full turns to swap them with an old SG Reissue. I got the SG's off and they felt much heavier than the LPs (that happened to be glued on) and (here's the surprise) they were made in Asia. For a supposedly quality USA made instrument I would expect much better. To make it even worse, the SG's tuners wouldn't even fit in the holes drilled in the LP. They even had the nerve to put Gibson Deluxe on the back of the crappy import tuners. To make the Les Paul worse, the fingerboard is very crappily sanded down, the bridge pickup went dead after a few weeks and the strap button near the neck fell out of the hole. I did not expect this since I had such a good experience with my SG. To top it all off, when I called the Gibson Warranty Claims office, they basically told me to f**k off. They acted like I had done something wrong and when I hung up on them, I realized that I had. That mistake was that I bought a Gibson from Guitar Center. From the point I got the Les Paul, the only thing I ever bought at GC was a bulk pack of strings. Both Gibson and Guitar Center have lost a customer who has spent thousands of dollars at each company and possibly would have spent several thousand more if his experience had been better. Just thought you might like to hear some support for what you're doing and you could add this to a rant about brand loyalty or the $hitiness of Gibson. Keep doing what you're doing, Matt Molter |
Hi Stephan & Ed:
I
had wanted to contact you sooner, but really only got to spend some
time with
JET #261 this past weekend.
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Pauls Anywhere
We Sell Gibsons because here in Vegas We get a lot
of foreign customers
In Europe & Asia, Gibson guitars sell for more than twice as much as
they do in the USA.
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Hi Ed, Love the site (Especially the "Rants") I'm surprised not to see any mention of the intonation problems associated with USA made Gibson guitars. On most Gibson electrics the scale length from the nut to 12th fret is 24.562"
No problem with that...but the
scale length above the 12th fret is 24.75.
That means OK intonation from the
nut to 12th fret (especially with
Buzz
Feiten Tuning System or similar), but really BAD intonation
above the 12th fret.
At the 22nd fret, the error is
about 0.04". About half the width of the
Copies (including Epiphone) don't
have this fault.
What do you think?
Regards,
I'm not much of a Gibson
Fan myself, In fact I could go on about that for a long rant
!!!! After I read your letter, I
do concur with your findings !!!! I don't like the short
stubby necks, I don't like the fret size, I don't like rosewood
fretboards with plastic inlays (on supposedly American Guitars) Ed Based in Bolton, near Manchester, in the Northwest of
England, owner Phil Hartley is a well respected guitar repairer
and technician with many years of experience. During this time
the services of Phil Hartley Guitar Repairs have been used by
music shops throughout England. As a former head of large retail guitar department and
through his many years as a guitar teacher, Phil Hartley has
gained first hand knowledge of the problems encountered by
guitarists of all abilities and budgets. Whether your beginners’ guitar has developed a tuning
problem or you’ve worn away the frets on your guitar, you can
rest assured that each will receive the same level of care and
attention to make your guitar the best it can be. All repairs are carried out by Phil Hartley. Work is never
subcontracted out nor is it ever assigned to a trainee or
apprentice. Phil Hartley is an approved retrofitter of the Buzz Feiten
Tuning System. See the new
Buzz Feiten page for details of this revolutionary
intonation system |
Just Because !!!
Just because I think they are
overpriced and don't stand up to many
other brands.
Just because I think the new ones all have very low
resale value.
Just because the necks break like
toothpicks.
Just because I don't like the neck
joint design
Doesn't mean I don't sell them.
It just so happens, We keep the shop real busy
Repairing Gibson Guitars.
Ed Roman
If you want to hear it from others
Read What Gibson Employees Are
Saying About Gibson
(Click Here)
If You Are A Gibson Employee Go To This Website & Tell The World
What The World Needs To Know
This of course is the primary reason I get bashed on the internet
I tell it like it is and I don't take prisoners !!!!
Ed Roman
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Hey Ed, I just wanted to tell you that I finally have to agree with you about Gibson. They ought to be freakin' ashamed of themselves for putting out the Bull fertilizer they have been lately. I recently went to a music store which will remain nameless and tried out a couple of the new ES 335s. One was a satin finished one and the other was a tobacco sunburst dot neck. The satin finish one literally felt like a piece of pressure treated 2X4 from Home Depot. I mean the neck was square on the back!!!!!!! They wanted almost $2,000.00 for it. I was totally disgusted with that so called guitar, so I tried out the $4,800.00 sunburst It felt like a piece of 2X4 with a finish on it. I was completely
appalled that Gibson would put out such garbage !!!! |
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Even More Deprogramming From Ed
Roman There Are 2 Major Cliché's That Are No Longer True In The Guitar Business 1. You Get What You Pay For!!!! It's painfully obvious to me or to anyone who is not intellectually challenged, today many large corporations, use this tired old cliché to their financial advantage. They are constantly pricing guitars at extremely high prices, so that consumers will think they are actually handmade well built instruments. I first learned this fact back in 1991, I was employed by Gibson Guitars. The president of Gibson, Henry Juszkiewicz made this statement to me. "The higher the price the better the guitar" "or at least that will be the customers perception". This may have backfired a little on him, due to the fact that this artificial perception, that a production made guitar has to be so expensive, has made it possible for custom builders like, Myself, JET, Gledura, Benedetto, McPherson, & Duesenberg to flourish. Simply because most intelligent people, would rather have a custom guitar. Especially if they could buy it for the same price or less than a machine made production instrument. 2. It's Just Too Good To Be True!!!! That's another Bulls&%t Cliché, "The Man" & all the large corporations want to instill in your mind. (Don't you believe that for even one second !!!!!!!!) A tribe isn't a tribe unless it has one Chief & many Indians. The Chief is nothing without Indians!! The question you must ask yourself your whole life is "Am I A Chief, Or Am I An Indian" The Indian will believe the old "It's too good to be true" adage and go back to smoking his peace pipe. The Chief will just go for it There lies the inherent difference. Some people play original music, They are known as innovators, Some people play only cover tunes, In Vegas they are known as Lounge Bands. Now that doesn't make these people bad people,
But it doesn't make them Chief's either !!!! Ed Roman Monkey See Monkey Do Speaking Of Monkeys |
A Grouping of 24 fret Gibson Double Cutaway Les Pauls
One of the few Gibsons that I personally liked.
Of course they had to discontinue this model, It was too good !!!!
I never saw one of these break !!!!
Ed Roman
Ed Roman Recommends Quicksilver Handmade Guitars For People Who Want The Best
LES PAUL & SG COPIES
This is a collection of guitars that I have seen on the market that look like
Les Pauls
These copies have been around since the 60's When Gibson actually discontinued
the Les Paul for 8 or 9 years.
Bet you never saw a 1965 Les Paul. That's right they discontinued them
because they were not selling well.
Gibson & IBM
How many people do you know who own IBM Computers?
The first clones were weak but nowadays the clones are far better.
The Same Could Be Said For Gibson.
I am not going to mention brand names.
Hell why should I make it easier for Gibson to try and sue someone.
It stands to reason that if you want to sell something to someone who is already brainwashed Into thinking the Les Paul is a wonderful guitar.
You are simply going to have to make a better instrument. Otherwise what would be the point.
Vinnie Martell The Vanilla Fudge With A Les Paul Copy
Benedetto Benny Model
In The 90's Heritage guitars were far better than Gibsons,
Today I am sorry I can no longer say that
At least they are 100& made in the USA and it's not considered a corporate
guitar.
It still suffers from most of the Gibson design flaws
Group Of Heritage Brand Les Paul Clones or should I say "Originals"
Boris Dommenget Germany
 This
is an original Gibson Les Paul that was built back in the 80's in
the USA.We are refinishing this guitar, we are replacing the top with a gorgeous piece of quilt for a good customer who was not happy with the initial construction design of his instrument. This will be the 4th one we are doing for him.
There are several other shops that are doing retops these days. Ask them to show you pictures of how many they have actually done. Ed Roman was doing Gibson retopping for 15 plus years before anybody attempted to copy us to our best knowledge. 702.875.4552 |
Paul Stanley Redesigns The Les Paul & Does A Better Job Than Gibson
Gibson Howard Roberts Tailpieces.
We have a limited amount of these tailpieces, they are no longer being manufactured. Please call to order.
Read What Gibson Employees are
saying about Gibson
(Click Here)
If You Are A Gibson Employee Go to this website & Tell The World
What The World Needs To Know
http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Gibson-Guitar-Reviews-E6869.htm
GIBSON LES PAUL FOR ACE FREHLEY
CUSTOM MADE BY ED ROMAN 1986
The regular stock Les Paul back is too bulky & adds too much weight and prevents you from reaching the high notes. It's very uncomfortable because of the sharp edges and the weight factor. The lighter the wood the more resonant the guitar. Traditionalists will always want the stock guitar. Personally I'm a fan of breaking all traditions, nothing is sacred least of all some antiquated design that was copied directly from a Jazz style guitar designed in the 30's and got popular for all the wrong reasons... I don't want to go off on a rant here but it's just my way to challenge anything authority & challenge tradition. Call Me A Rebel... I am currently working on a neck through model with hard-mounted pickups and a narrower headstock which are all vast improvements. but even with those improvements the guitar does not stand up to some of the more modern well thought out designs. No matter what you do to this the neck joint is always gonna be wrong and the pickups are placed in the wrong position. No matter what anyone says, I believe an intelligently designed electric guitar should be 24 frets and 25" scale. Even Les Paul himself knew it. So he designed the 1961 SG neck thru body guitar to replace it.
When Gibson opted to make it a glue on neck instead, Les Paul had his name taken off the model because he did not want his name associated with yet another Gibson blunder. Les Paul was an anti traditionalist just like me.. in fact he designed the first neck thru guitar.. however Gibson opted to make them glue on necks. I DON'T LIKE TOO MANY GUITARS WITH GLUED ON NECKS... they block all the high end from the neck reaching the pickups. My website lists many corroborated stories on this subject.. Ed Roman is always willing to listen to opposing views as long as they are based on physics and not on emotion. In fact if someone can make any sense out of the design I will be the first to admit I was wrong. |
